[Coryintheboof8730 writes:]
Would you at minimum say that the only value in reading bs or being lied to (if only extremely minimal) is learning the ins and outs of psychological deception/lies/twisting narratives? Yes you can learn that elsewhere, but if learning new nuances=value there’s that. But I feel like you’ll tell me I’m wrong here for that. But yes, we agree more value is found in 100 other places and situations.
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[And I reply:]
Most people I've known, face to face, are damaged for decades by very simple lies that were told to them: I seem to be an unusual person in noticing and dealing with lies rapidly —but most people I've known (99%?) can't cope with them and can't "get over" them.
I realize, BTW, that this reply has relied on extremely idiomatic, colloquial English, and many of my ESL viewers won't really know what I mean.
Even in workplace situations, even in university classroom situations, not getting into the emotional entanglements of family and romantic relationships, the vast majority of people can't cope with the lies they've been told: it's possible this is just stupidity, and it's possible there are psychological aspects that can be usefully pinned down.
Those who think it's a virtue to be trusting and faithful suffer when they realize they would have been more virtuous through suspicion and doubt. Those who think it's a virtue to be obedient suffer when they realize they've been obeying a liar for the sake of a lie.
