Wednesday 6 December 2023

Torn from the Comment Section.


[Question from the audience:]

Do you believe that MLK sit in tactics during the civil rights era was useless and foolish? It seems that you believe that legislation is the only practical way forward to achieve animal liberationI submit to you that it is not. Look at how much social upheaval, violence, attempted revolution(Jon Brown), protest(both legal and illegal), arrests and war it took to completely liberate black people from slavery and second class citizenship. And thats people! There's no way in hell that it will take LESS to liberate animals. Especially, since it is interwoven with supposed nutritional need and considered part of our species diet. I would say it requires civil disobedience and much more. In order to create drastic social change like that, we need social upheaval to reach the critical mass reaction required for that change.

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So the inference you're making is "MLK used 'sit in tactics', THEREFORE naked women pouring blood on their boobs is a legit, proven tactic that's gonna work for the vegan movement"?  Here's a two hour long discussion (recorded yesterday) of precisely the error you're making: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX8oc_scES8

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Re: "In order to create drastic social change like that, we need social upheaval to reach the critical mass reaction required for that change."  It's NEVER going to work: not for you (not for vegans) and not for anti-abortion protestors and not for pro-Palestinian protestors.  My argument is not that your approach is 10% wrong, I'm arguing that you're 100% wrong, and unlike Wayne Hsiung, I can back up my argument with facts rather than fictions.  (1) A twenty minute long video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzWwhUvMeDo  (2) A one hour long video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_6Z3eImMy8  The ultimate price here, as the title of the second video indicates, is YOUR LIFE: just like a muslim terrorist, you are being asked to sacrifice YOUR OWN LIFE for this ideology that cannot ever succeed, and that will do vastly more harm than good, if any good at all.

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I'm vegan and morally opposed to vegan activism: it's bad and evil and wrong. Nov. 29th, 2023.


Vegan Activists ruin their own lives… and nobody is trying to help them…  Nov. 28th, 2023.