LINK: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6y6W4KtT2PqpN6el3xkAhp?si=lGBm54SOSwetoCIc5D9h0g
You don't choose to be loved or hated: you choose to be known or unknown. And if it is inevitable, in choosing to make yourself known, that you also make yourself hated, then you must decide if you will be hated for reasons shallow or profound —if you will dispute things that are trivial or of great significance —with honesty or deception —with or without wearing a mask. The conflict between myself and "Swayze" (Unnatural Vegan) does in large part explain how I became such a notorious figure in the vegan movement, and it is linked to several different political, philosophical and ethical controversies that have never been resolved.
